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canyonwalker ([personal profile] canyonwalker) wrote2021-03-17 10:37 pm

Y'know What? Fuck St. Patrick's Day.

I came to a decision this year. Fuck St. Patrick's Day.

To be more precise, I came to that decision yesterday. I came to that decision because what I'm seeing, increasingly, is that St. Patrick's Day is being framed in popular culture as simply an opportunity to drink appropriately-colored or -named alcohol. I have Irish ancestry. I grew up celebrating St. Patrick's Day every year. So it really bothers me that that part of my identity is being reduced to booze.

It's ironic to equate Irish culture to booze, BTW, because my Irish grandmother was a teetotaler. It was not uncommon, at least among American Irish. "There are two kinds of Irish," she admonished me when I was younger, "The drunks and the dries. And this is a dry house." She'd seen alcohol ruin enough lives in her family and her community that she wouldn't allow a drop of it inside.

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[personal profile] autumnfrostfall 2021-03-18 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand. I get your grandmother as well, my dad was the same.

We were visiting Mom's sister & her family. Dad was sitting in a room with us kids. I asked him why he wasn't out with everyone else. He said he didn't want to be just another drunk Indian. Given I later found out his brother was an alcoholic, it made sense.

If it helps any, we don't think drinking when we hear of the Irish. However the general population... yes, that's all they think at this point thanks to St Patrick's Day's marketing.
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[personal profile] culfinriel 2021-03-19 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if the promotion of St. Patrick's Day in the US isn't a product of several things:

a) It's been a very long time, but the Irish were unwanted, hated, and vilified for some time. Was St. Patrick's Day in part a way to have both one's own pride in heritage, as well as a promotion to others of a more positive attitude towards people of Irish descent?

b) In the modern era, it's a huge monetary uptick for certain parts of the hospitality industry. I suspect it's right up there with New Year's for some of them. It's big business so it gets promoted for no heritage reason.

c) Overlapping with the previous, there was no holiday between Christmas and Easter. Plus, for those that observed it, there's Lent. Was St. Patrick's Day a convenient opportunity for people to take a break?

d) In the 70's (?) it was a propaganda tool for the IRA to promote support in the US.

Probably some other social reasons, too. And it's probably perceived very differently if you have Irish Catholic heritage or Irish Protestant heritage or no Irish heritage. It would be interesting to know if the whole perspective was different in Ireland, now and historically.

I do find it surprising that one of the stereotypes about "the Irish" was that they were drunks, and that sure seems echoed in what you mentioned.